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Sorry to disappoint Adam. I'm even more sorry to say I don't follow wrestling and am definitely a different person from this Jake the Snake you speak of.

No worries, I'm not a big wrestling fan. Not anymore, at least. I was a mega-fan of the WWF for a few years when I was a kid, but then my obsession moved on to things like Doom and porn.

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I just reread the comic (again) and I'm gonna hazard a guess that Shade is Heather. I doubt that you guys are gonna confirm it but I'll just applaud your skillful foreshadowing and sprinkling of various clues.

We've taken a vow of neither confirming nor denying any sort of guesses made as to future revelations of the comic.

However, since I now know you're freshly familiar with it all, I can totally quiz you.

What's your...
Favorite character?
Favorite page/scene?
And how did you discover the comic in the first place?

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Discuss Blog Entries / Re: Another Text Interview & Our First Podcast
« on: March 12, 2016, 05:09:01 AM »
I have been trolling this forum for a little bit. I have tried a few times to join but the whole activation to email thing wasn't working so I gave up for a bit and today decided to try again and it worked!

Hey! Nice to see you here, Dave. Though that's sort of distressing that you had such a hard time signing up for the forums. Now I'm going to lie awake at night pondering the legions of Satan Ninja fans that have tried to join our community here and were unable. If only they were all as tenacious as you.

So, I am the guy that forced Adam and Jessica to talk "family friendly" on their first podcast. I love the feedback on the interview that you have given to both of them. I am curious as the host, how did I do? FYI, media group I belong to has the family friendly policy I just have to play by the rules and basically try to avoid the infamous "explicit" warning.

I actually have a suggestion. If you ever use the censor "beep" again, turn that fucker way down next time.

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Taken at face value, this has to be the least appealing page title so far.

It's hard to tell what they're eating, but it's mac 'n' cheese with slices of hot dog. I like the fact that grandma felt it was necessary to don an apron to cook mac 'n' cheese.

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I can't believe it took me ages to figure that out, seeing as The Cure are the most famous Gothic Rock band of all. It was because the hair wasn't parted in the middle which I'm so used to seeing him having.
In fact here's a video of Robert Smith actually in a haunted house wearing pyjamas (although they're stripy, not polka dots) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijxk-fgcg7c
Damn, this thread is one big 80s Gothic Rock reference pool. I promise this'll be the last time I try to guess something, because I have no idea what Kitty is influenced by.

That video's blocked in our country, but I think I know the one you're talking about.

If you ever get bored, you can always take a little DeLorean ride back to the past pages of the comic and guess at some of the references there. I know some forums have rules against posting in old threads, but we don't mind some thread necromancy.

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Welcome to the forum, Jake! Though I gotta say I'm sorta disappointed you aren't Jake the Snake. He was one of my favorite wrestlers for awhile when I was a kid. I think up until The Ultimate Warrior stole my heart with his intensity and insanity.

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Rio was definitely inspired by Robert Smith.

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Discuss Blog Entries / Re: Another Text Interview & Our First Podcast
« on: March 10, 2016, 03:08:19 PM »
The comic definitely fits the criteria for being featured, it's very premice is fantasy and sci-fi.

When I was adding our comic to several different webcomic hosting sites, I would often have to choose a single genre to file it under, and I had a hell of a time trying to figure out what genre would best fit.

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Oh man, and here I was being proud I recognised Stallone's face in Viper. I'm clearly under-80s'd or something because I'm missing all of these references!

I'll simply take that as an indicator that someone can still be totally into the comic without catching all the winks and nods to '80s media. Which is exactly how we want things.

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Oh man, the dad-mustache origin? Nice. ;P

Is that actually true? I have to say the eye patch suits you better..

It's totally true. I looked for a mustache at local costume shops (it was getting close to Halloween time, so there were lots of them) but all the fake mustaches were terrible. Basically just a strip of fabric. So Jessica's mom volenteered to snip off some of her hair from the back of her head, and then Izzy glued it onto my face. It hurt like a fuckin' bitch when I had to tear it off, though.

And eye-patches and me have a long history together.

I think the Satan Ninja outfit worked out really well. I also wondered why Jessica enjoyed wearing that workout stuff so much to conventions but I have a confession to make (this sounds juicier than it is), I wear a lot of lycra when rowing and that stuff is actually really comfy!

Heh, I don't think Jessica wore it for comfort, since I can't imagine a thong-style anything being all that comfortable.

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Discuss Blog Entries / Re: Another Text Interview & Our First Podcast
« on: March 08, 2016, 04:40:04 PM »
I have to say that I agree with Jessica, in that it should only have references from 1980-1989, after all it's Satan Ninja 198X (which I think is the perfect name for the comic, encapsulates everything that it is) for a reason. Although it must be pretty painful to not be able to reference Total Recall.

Right. It's just that there are so many awesome things from '90 and '91 that I think would fit so well with the theme of Satan Ninja. Meanwhile, there's not a lot from 1980 or '81 that we draw influence from. If you look at the list of influential media we list on our FAQ, you can see we skew heavily toward the mid-to-late '80s. Although I think pop music in general took a turn for the worse in the late '80s, once Janet Jackson made new jack swing mega-popular. I just can't get into NJS or hip hop, and those genres exploded in popularity around that time. Though I can't deny thinking "Ice Ice Baby" was rad when I was in 6th grade.

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Also, I've been reading and hearing about how you's want to expand the comics readership, which I have some ideas for.
First of all, on the New Retro Wave Youtube channel, whenever they upload a new video, there's always an 80s-esque picture to accompany it, quite a few in this comics style. I think your illustrations would be perfect for it. The channel has about 100,000 subscribers with around 10,000 views per video, and the kind of people who'd watch those videos are the EXACT kind of people who'd read your comic, so the comic could be advertised in the comments or video description.
Secondly, io9 has a thing where they're looking for artwork to be submitted, so you's could probably submit something to them. In fact, they could probably just run a story on your comic in general without a picture, since it has a lot of fantastical elements in it. Plus I think it has high readership figures.
So there's my ideas, do or not do what you want with them.

We really appreciate the advice. I'll shoot a message to the New Retro Wave dudes and see how receptive they are to SN8X. Jessica said she'd submit something to i09. I know they tend to skew toward sci-fi and super hero stuff, but maybe someone there would see how fuckin' radical Satan Ninja is. Doesn't hurt to try, anyway.

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Discuss Anything / Re: Carpenter Brut - Turbo Killer (Music Video)
« on: March 08, 2016, 04:26:56 PM »
Me too. I think Carpenter Brut is right up there with Perturbator.

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I've heard of shadowrun as a SNES video game, just found it's also a boardgame.

The SNES game was my introduction to the Shadowrun franchise. I totally loved that game, and I remember going to a comic book store and being blown away when I saw that there were Shadowrun novels. Then I learned the franchise started as a tabletop RPG, which I actually didn't even know was a thing. I had heard of Dungeons and Dragons, of course, but I knew D&D as the Saturday morning cartoon and comics and novels, and only had a vague notion that it was some kind of board game or something. I was oblivious to what D&D was truly like.

Of course, I instantly went and purchased a bunch of the Shadowrun RPG rulebooks, and read them over with the intent of playing with my friends, but we never actually got around to playing because the rules were so intimidating. Still enjoyed reading the rulebooks though, because I was so in love with the setting.

Now that I've got years of running D&D games under my belt, I'd love to give Shadowrun a try.

My idea was similar to your's except the apocalypse happened in 1990 and was set 100 years later in 2090
 What I very much had in mind was Bladerunner and Akira esque cities. It was too hard to think of multiple stories to set on Earth so I've decided to have stories set in multiple parts of the galaxy, although Earth's cities are still 80s like. I wanna work an 80s aesthetic into it somehow.

Sounds awesome. Writing sci-fi is intimidating to me. I've recently been doing a lot of sci-fi world-building for the first time, as I develop Satan Ninja's space setting. I intend to write some stories that detail some of Ket and Darwick's adventures, so I wanted to figure out the key factions in space. Once I figured that out, things began falling into place and story ideas started coming to me.

Frost used to be the name of the guy currently named Rio, and Suther was the name of the white-haired guy. I was working on the page prior to this one, and I felt like Suther was waaay too much of a blatant Lost Boys reference. Adam gave them those names in the first place, and I still feel like Frost was a better name for the lipstick guy than it is for the other guy, because it sounds so elfy and froofy. But in addition to my grievance with the name "Suther," Adam kept wanting to call him "Frost" instead for some reason, maybe due to the white hair (come on, Adam, Frost was the one with snowy white dots on his dumb pajama shirt), so we made that change.

The white-haired shirtless dude in leather totally looks like a Frost to me. Way more than dotted-shirt lipstick dude.

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No I haven't played the first two, but despite what I read from them, I still enjoyed the game. I guess I was really interested in how retro-future 50s aesthetic held over into the future and into the apocalypse. I myself, who plans maybe on being a sci-fi writer (I'm 20) had ideas for a post apocalyptic 80s aesthetic cyberpunk world (I dropped but still intend to have plans an 80s esque world). So what that game did with it's lore interested me.

I can't think of '80s cyberpunk without thinking of one of my favorite franchises: Shadowrun. Are you familiar with it? More recent incarnations have moved away from the '80s aesthetic, but the first couple editions of the tabletop RPG (and the media that was based on it) are totally awesome.

I once had an idea for a setting that would mix '50s and '80s aesthetics, sort of like the movie Streets of Fire. It'd be an alternate timeline where an apocalypse happened in the '50s, but the current time of the setting would be in the '80s. Never did anything with that idea.

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So Australian Dude's my nickname? That was quick.
I knew it wasn't Billy Idol, since he's not exactly a goth rocker and has already been referenced anyway. Sisters Of Mercy? With the sunglasses, leather jacket and all.

As they say in Bad Dudes vs. Dragonninja: "Got it!" You're good, Australian Dude.

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It was actually unrelated, but I was playing Fallout 3  and decided to look up stuff about it online, and I came across No Mutants Allowed (Not particularly fond of that game are they?). When I browsing the forums I saw a post you made about the comic, and thought it looked interesting, and so there I was.

Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that to be what brought you here. That's awesome. Have you played the original two Fallout games? I served as a lead writer and voice actor for what's probably the most popular Fallout 2 mod, the Restoration Project.

I totally understand the hate a lot of the old Fallout fans give to Fallout 3. It's a radical departure from the games they loved. I actually enjoy Fallout 3, despite being a huge fan of the original games. It doesn't hold up to them, but I just kind of view it as its own thing. It probably helps that I like playing the Elder Scrolls games.

Well Damm, I though I was clever. But yeah, it's a good idea that it's not drawn off a single individual character so that they're not carbon copies of the source material.

Right. It's good for legal reasons, and it also makes for more interesting characters. A lot of the main characters, like Alex, are like a hot dog of '80s influences (do they have hot dogs in Australia?), where they're pieced together from so many sources that you can't really single out one core influence.

Regarding Morely, I'm guessing his hair is from the lead singer of The Damned and his face from Bauhaus. As for Frost, Billy Idol maybe? Regardless, she's absolutely nailed the 80s goth look.

I agree, she totally nailed the '80s goth look. And you, Australian Dude, nailed Morley's influences. Good job. Frost, however, is not inspired by Billy Idol, though I could see where you'd get that, with the hair.

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