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Will Eddie's real parents ever turn up?

First off, welcome to the forum, Red! Jessica and I always get fuckin' pumped when a new member signs up.

As for your question ... hmmm, how should I word this? Oh, I'll resort to an X-files quote: "The truth is out there." Some mysteries in the comic might never explicitly be spelled out, but we'll at least give some hints for those who are interested in digging for them.

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Adam how do you decide what to keep and what to cut? I suffer from occasional verbosity myself and I'm always looking for perspective.

I re-read the script while checking to make sure every sentence serves some sort of purpose, whether it's to advance the story, reveal some bit of exposition, add depth to a character or the character's relationship to someone else, set up or tell a joke, foreshadow some future events, ect. If not, then it gets cut. At the same time, I try to think of ways that the sentences could be truncated, but still convey everything without being too awkward. And Jessica goes over it all as well, and she has a very critical eye.

To give an example, here are some cut lines of dialogue from the page where Corey and Trance are trying to get a hold of their friends who never showed up to play C&C. This exchange occurs right after Carmen says "No comprendo." and leaves the room. I've bolded the stuff that was cut.

[Corey has picked up the dining room phone and is dialing a number.]
 
COREY: Trance, just between us, I think Carmen might be dumb. I mean, you’d think she’d have a better grasp of English by now. Hell, you don’t even have an accent.
 
TRANCE: I was born here, Corey.

 
COREY (into the phone): Hi, Mrs. Feldman! Is Joe there?

We cut that out because the page was getting too wordy, and I felt the "I was born here, Corey" joke seemed too unoriginal, like something I've seen in sitcoms before. The cut dialog does convey some new information to the reader, like the fact that Trance doesn't speak with an accent and that he was born in the US, but that's not necessary information and so it's not worth the space those words would have taken up.

On that same page, there was some cut dialogue between Veronica and Heather (again, I bolded the cut content):

HEATHER: Can you believe Tina’s going to the prom with Joe Feldman? Like, last year, he was totally geek, but I guess now he’s kind of chic. He was invited to Connor’s party, after all.

VERONICA: Fer-sure, but even dating an ex-nerd is going to cost Tina some major popularity points. I think I’d die first.

We cut Heather's line because the reader can infer what the girls are talking about from Veronica's response. That also helped it to feel more like we're dropping in on the middle of a conversation.

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Also what is Eddie swinging? Materialized nunchaku?

Yep. Jessica said she's going to update the page eventually to move one of the word balloons in the second to last panel so you can see the weapon better.

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You know I never actually thought about these things. Does Jessica ever turn around and say "hey Adam, enough with the prose already! I want some room to draw Eddie doing a van Damme split.."? Or the other way around perhaps where you decide there's room left for more text?

A lot of the conversations I've written end up getting whittled down once Jessica starts sketching the page. Usually, the first thing she does is import the dialogue and arranges it all, trying to figure out how many panels the page will require. Sometimes she asks me to trim the dialogue down, and others times she does it herself and has me approve it.

I'm not nearly as verbose as I was when we first started doing this comic. For instance, the scene early on in Issue 1 where Eddie talks with his friends in the arcade was originally wordy enough to fill up about five or six pages, but we ended up scaling it down to fit into two.

On the flip side, there have been times where I'll see some empty space on the page and think up some extra dialogue that could fit there, but usually by that point Jessica's so sick of working on that particular page that she blows off my suggestion.

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Writing a comic is a lot harder than I thought it’d be. With every word you use, you’re covering up more of the art, so words come at a premium. If this were a novel, I could write a natural conversation between Eddie and Alex, weaving in important bits of exposition here and there while adding some depth to the characters and the relationship they have.

But that’s tricky in a comic. I need to accomplish a lot in as few words as possible, leaving Jessica’s art to fill in the blanks. It’s definitely taken me a bit to get used to.

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Discuss Anything / Twitch Streaming
« on: March 24, 2016, 12:46:40 AM »
So Jessica and I have decided to take the plunge into the world of live streaming. Last night we streamed on Twitch for the first time, with Jessica drunkenly playing the steam port of Final Fantasy III (the real III, not FFVI, which was originally released on the SNES as III).

Holy shit, so many things went wrong. Controller issues, the game screen displaying nothing but black for minutes without us noticing, Jessica dying and having to start the game over from the very beginning because she never saved it... it was a bit of a mess. But hey, we did get a surprise cameo from Maddox, and our stream should only get better from here, right?

For anyone who's curious to witness the chaos, you can view the stream by going here and then clicking on "Previous Broadcasts." (Unless you're reading this over two weeks from now, in which case the video will be gone, as Twitch only saves videos for 14 days.)

Jessica also plans to stream herself doing art. If you sign up for Twitch and follow Jessica, you can choose to get an email notification everyone we go live.

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We just updated this page, after getting some feedback. Nothing too major, but there are lots of little changes, so those who saw the page earlier might want to give it another read over.

I'm so horrible I can't tell. LOL you would have to give us some hints.

Like I said, it's nothing major. Jessica altered some of the shading, the direction some the character's eyes are looking, added in a hint of Eddie's dresser and baby picture in panel 4. Also added the baby picture in panel 2, and added the Eddie and Joe picture into some of the panels. Probably the most notable change is that Alex now starts to respond to Eddie before getting distracted by seeing his baby picture. All minor things that I'm not at all surprised you missed.

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Discuss Blog Entries / Re: Another Text Interview & Our First Podcast
« on: March 20, 2016, 11:12:03 PM »
Ever since I went on that first nipple hole rant, I've been on the lookout for real life visible nipple holes/dents. I've actually seen a couple that look like there might be some kind of little divet, but it seems to be very rare. Still not sure what's going on with 'em. There was one girl who looked like she had one in one nipple but not in the other.

Are you referring to inverted nipples?  I've actually read that there is a piece of tissue connecting the nipple to the body keeping it from being "normal"  I believe that there is a surgery that can correct that also.

Nope, but that is interesting. I'm talking about a convex nipple with a small indentation in the center. So probably not from nipple piercing either, since I imagine that's always through the sides.

Here's a good real-world example of what Jessica's talking about (NSFW, of course): https://gfycat.com/AmplePoisedCattle


This probably goes without saying, but let's never make this a picture thread, haha.

Oops.

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We just updated this page, after getting some feedback. Nothing too major, but there are lots of little changes, so those who saw the page earlier might want to give it another read over.

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Damnn, I was so sure I was correct (although in my defense, I only said the outline of the wolf looked like it). That totally looked like a red vest to me, but now that I look closer, it does appear to be a wooly coat.
And I've actually seen The Thing and yet I don't remember a wolf-like creature in it, although it was four years ago and I saw over half of it on a projector screen in a classroom with tones of light coming in, so I could barely see anything.
We were watching because my 20th Century history class was looking at media from the Cold War era, and The Thing was set in a very cold place in a war against The Thing. Get it....
Actually it was because it was allegory for not knowing who and who isn't a communist, and the levels of ditrust.

Ah, you took Jessica too literally when she called the were-beast a "thing." She wasn't referring to the movie (which, by the way, is a fuckin' badass movie and that's awesome that they showed you it in school). The creature (I'll avoid calling it a thing so as not to add to the confusion) is wearing a letterman jacket.

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Goddamn Eddie has a couch in his room?

Yeah, his room takes up most of the attic of their house, so it's pretty big. His grandpa originally built it before Eddie was born to serve as his personal getaway. I actually designed detailed floor plans for both Eddie and Alex's houses.

Adam I've been getting into vinyl, know any synth-based stuff that translates real well to that?

I have no idea what translates well into vinyl, but I know both Perturbator and Carpenter Brut have had some vinyl releases, but they might have been limited.

This might come as a surprise to some people, since Jessica and I are so entrenched in '80s media, but we're not the type of people who purchase VHS tapes or vinyl. In fact, we prefer to watch '80s movies on blu-ray, if they're available. And our music library is almost entirely digital. We have some friends who are into collecting analog media, but we tend to embrace technology. We're incredibly frugal, but our computers and our entertainment center are the only things we've ever really splurged on.

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When we were coming up with the birth name Eddie’s hippie mom burdened him with, we wanted something super dumb and ‘80s and girly. Thus, Baby Moondreamer was born. He’s so lucky that Grandma eventually relented and allowed him to change his name to Eddie McCarthy, but those first couple years of school were brutal for poor Ed.

Speaking of Grandma, when I was researching for her character, I read up a bit on the effects a stroke can have, and it’s so fuckin’ weird how much it can change a person's personality. Usually it causes previously existent personality traits to become more extreme, but sometimes it causes the victim to take on personality traits that are the complete opposite of their pre-stroke selves. In the case of Grandma McCarthy, she went from being somewhat reserved and over protective, to being outspoken and generally carefree without much regard for the feelings of others.

We had showed the Minxy poster in a blog post several months ago during our hiatus, but Jessica decided to update it a bit for this page, mostly redoing her face and her boobs.

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Favorite character: Ok see I like them all so this is tough for me. I can relate to the awkwardness of Eddie at the party (I was pretty weird/awkward at 14. I've toned it down to charming quirks by now) so there's that. My pick for the coolest character is tough but Ket and Viper lose out to Psycho Sam for me for reasons of skateboarding (skating high is hard man). Runner ups after those 3 are (in no order): Alex, Trance, Frost (that goth-ified Top Gun look tho). Overall best is nigh impossible, ask me again after more story happens.

Interesting. Thanks for answering. We don't get much feedback from people, so I mostly use Google analytics to get an idea for what people like. For instance, I can see which of the character's profiles are viewed most frequently on the "About the Characters" page of the site. Eddie's profile gets the most views (probably because he's first and the main character), followed by Alex, and then Veronica and Heather. The profiles that get the least amount of views are Viper, Corey, and Darwick.

I've had a couple people say that Trish is their favorite character, which is sort of confusing to us, since she was written to be a throw-away character. She's basically a trashier version of Veronica with smaller boobs and bigger hair.

Favorite page: Anything with Psycho Sam is gold but that panel with him and the dummy is platinum.

Oh man, Jessica put a lot of time into that page, so I'm glad it's someone's favorite.

I'm pretty sure you posted it on Reddit and I went down the rabbit hole to here!

Awesome. My SN8X reddit submissions tend to get very few up-votes, since it's not the type of content people are usually looking for (stand alone gag-strips), but I figure even if it gets us one new fan, then it's worth posting.


What's up with Sam's board though? Do they have purple grip tape?

Ah, we'll probably have to retcon that. Thanks for pointing it out. My high school buddies were skateboarders (including my friend Sam who served as the main inspiration for Psycho Sam), but like Jessica, my knowledge of skateboarding mostly stems from watching others play some of the Tony Hawk games.

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Discuss Blog Entries / Re: Another Text Interview & Our First Podcast
« on: March 17, 2016, 03:21:30 PM »
Haha, it's true that I wanted to rant about hentai nipple hole confusion in the 2011 podcast pilot, but I don't think I'd even seen the fucked-in-the-nipple thing yet. It was probably just some image I saw while browsing deviantArt or Google Image Search results, or something someone showed me. But I definitely saw it.

Yeah, I can confirm this. I've stumbled across it more than once. And as much as I'm a fan of nice racks, I have zero desire to see these mythical nipples holes fucked.

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Discuss Anything / Re: Preacher
« on: March 15, 2016, 03:03:23 AM »
So I just read some awesome news.  Preacher is actually a reality now.

At first, I read that as "Preacher is actually a reality show." Oh, man, what would a Preacher reality show even be like?

But seriously, I'll give it a chance. However, I'm going to keep my expectations low. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

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I have a feeling that Grandma is not as senile as she wants people to think.   

How could Gram forget about her souvenir love pig?! Signs of dementia? or is she almost caught telling a fib to give Eddie courage?

Grandma's quirkiness will be explained a bit in an upcoming page.

Jessica I'm continually amazed by your work on facial expressions. Alex's faces in this page are wondrous, particularly the one in the wide shot.

Agreed. I've always felt that expressions are one of Jessica's strong points.

Speaking of Alex, any clues on who she's influenced by? She's a major character and I have no idea.

A lot of our main cast are more inspired by certain character tropes as opposed to particular icons of the '80s. We actually talked about some of Alex's influences in the podcast we were guests on.

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