Satan Ninja 198X

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Title: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Adam Dravian on January 24, 2015, 12:33:21 AM
(https://satanninja.com/sites/satanninja.com/files/images/comic/satan-ninja-198x/issue-2/page-29-discovery-in-the-woods.jpg) (https://satanninja.com/comic/satan-ninja-198x/issue-2-party-like-it-s-198x/page-29)

This is kind of our Bilbo finding the one ring moment.

The woods are actually darker than they appear, but it's illuminated a bit for the sake of the reader. That's why Eddie doesn't notice the ninja corpse he tripped over. Plus his vision is shit without his glasses and he's got those crybaby tears to deal with.

Getting real close to wrapping up issue 2 now...
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Mumm-Rad on January 24, 2015, 09:09:02 AM
This is the moment We have all been waiting for‼️ Can't wait to see what happens next‼️
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Rijst on January 24, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
This is the moment We have all been waiting for‼️ Can't wait to see what happens next‼️

Indeed. Eddie doesn't even seem to notice it after he tripped over it, or the massive corpse stain on his suit.

That ninja looks like he's been dead for a while, how much time has passed since Viperelli shot him?
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Adam Dravian on January 24, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
That ninja looks like he's been dead for a while, how much time has passed since Viperelli shot him?

It's actually only been about 24 hours. I even did research on the stages of decay to help Jessica get the corpse right. I think she just got carried away with making his eyes look creepy.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Rae on January 24, 2015, 09:34:11 PM
I love Eddie's pleasantly content facial expression in the bottom row, middle panel. A boy and his satanic magic glove, ah the simple things. Like fresh apple pie and warm crackling fireplaces.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Rijst on January 25, 2015, 06:51:43 AM
It's actually only been about 24 hours.

Eddie went throught all that shit in just 24 hours? Poor guy. Rae is right, he does finally look content with his glove..

I even did research on the stages of decay to help Jessica get the corpse right.

I see a blog post coming!

Edit: by the way, where did the ninja's wings go?
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Adam Dravian on January 25, 2015, 05:59:12 PM
Eddie went throught all that shit in just 24 hours? Poor guy.

Yeah, I know it seems odd that such little time has passed in the comic since nearly a year has passed in reality since we launched this thing. But the comic opens during Eddie's birthday party on Thursday night, and then Connor's pool party took place Friday night. Busy couple of days.

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Edit: by the way, where did the ninja's wings go?

We talked about whether we should include his wings or not when Jessica was sketching out the page. We decided not to since it's a pretty common trope in fiction for creatures that have shape-shifted in some way to revert to their natural state upon death.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Jessica Safron on January 25, 2015, 06:37:28 PM
Yeah, I'll probably end up toning down the ninja's eyes. That, or we could make up an excuse like, "That's what your eyes look like after you've gazed into Hell, like in The Beyond."
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Rijst on January 26, 2015, 11:45:27 AM
Yeah, I'll probably end up toning down the ninja's eyes. That, or we could make up an excuse like, "That's what your eyes look like after you've gazed into Hell, like in The Beyond."

You'd have to write that into the story though. Like a frame where the police find the dead ninja and one cop asks "Why do his eyes look that way?" and then another replies with "That's what your eyes look like after you've gazed into Hell. Haven't you seen The Beyond?". The first cop then says "No, I haven't.". You could even make him look like me, since I too haven't seen The Beyond..

Eddie went throught all that shit in just 24 hours? Poor guy.

Yeah, I know it seems odd that such little time has passed in the comic since nearly a year has passed in reality since we launched this thing. But the comic opens during Eddie's birthday party on Thursday night, and then Connor's pool party took place Friday night. Busy couple of days.

I suspect he'll probably snap after two days like this. Of course the comic involves quite a few parallel story lines so it takes a while for it to progress in-story..

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Edit: by the way, where did the ninja's wings go?

We talked about whether we should include his wings or not when Jessica was sketching out the page. We decided not to since it's a pretty common trope in fiction for creatures that have shape-shifted in some way to revert to their natural state upon death.

That's true, but isn't that mostly to save money on the special effects budget?
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Adam Dravian on January 27, 2015, 08:19:46 AM
You'd have to write that into the story though. Like a frame where the police find the dead ninja and one cop asks "Why do his eyes look that way?" and then another replies with "That's what your eyes look like after you've gazed into Hell. Haven't you seen The Beyond?". The first cop then says "No, I haven't.". You could even make him look like me, since I too haven't seen The Beyond..

Except all movies/video games/bands and such in the 198X-verse have to have a parody name that is usually another way to say the same thing (e.g. New Kids on the Block becomes Fresh Teens on the Street), or the parody name references the content of the original (e.g. Caddyshack becomes Gopher Golf). So The Beyond would become something like The Afterlife (if I were feeling lazy) or perhaps Hellgate Hotel.

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That's true, but isn't that mostly to save money on the special effects budget?

I believe the tradition began in books and folktales well before film came along, so I don't think that's the only reason. Besides, it allows you to have the big dramatic reveal where the girl discovers that the evil werewolf that she just killed was actually her boyfriend/teacher/grandpa/mail man. Or, if the story wants to be even more shocking, the beast will turn out to be a woman. Oooooo...
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Gregg Samsa on January 27, 2015, 12:16:58 PM
You'd have to write that into the story though. Like a frame where the police find the dead ninja and one cop asks "Why do his eyes look that way?" and then another replies with "That's what your eyes look like after you've gazed into Hell. Haven't you seen The Beyond?". The first cop then says "No, I haven't.". You could even make him look like me, since I too haven't seen The Beyond..

Except all movies/video games/bands and such in the 198X-verse have to have a parody name that is usually another way to say the same thing (e.g. New Kids on the Block becomes Fresh Teens on the Street), or the parody name references the content of the original (e.g. Caddyshack becomes Gopher Golf). So The Beyond would become something like The Afterlife (if I were feeling lazy) or perhaps Hellgate Hotel.

Given we're in the 198X universe, you'd have to parody the name Seven Doors of Death if this is in America - it didn't get a released as the Beyond in the US until the mid-90's.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Gregg Samsa on January 27, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
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Given we're in the 198X universe, you'd have to parody the name Seven Doors of Death if this is in America - it didn't get a released as the Beyond in the US until the mid-90's.

Seven Whores of Death - I just came up with Sam's next terrifying porn adventure.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Rijst on January 27, 2015, 01:06:30 PM
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Given we're in the 198X universe, you'd have to parody the name Seven Doors of Death if this is in America - it didn't get a released as the Beyond in the US until the mid-90's.

Seven Whores of Death - I just came up with Sam's next terrifying porn adventure.

Did you just start a discussion with yourself? Good catch though, you must be a The Beyond expert.

You'd have to write that into the story though. Like a frame where the police find the dead ninja and one cop asks "Why do his eyes look that way?" and then another replies with "That's what your eyes look like after you've gazed into Hell. Haven't you seen The Beyond?". The first cop then says "No, I haven't.". You could even make him look like me, since I too haven't seen The Beyond..

Except all movies/video games/bands and such in the 198X-verse have to have a parody name that is usually another way to say the same thing (e.g. New Kids on the Block becomes Fresh Teens on the Street), or the parody name references the content of the original (e.g. Caddyshack becomes Gopher Golf). So The Beyond would become something like The Afterlife (if I were feeling lazy) or perhaps Hellgate Hotel.

The really lazy solution would be calling it Over there somewhere, or you could refer to a non-existing sequel, Beyond the beyond

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That's true, but isn't that mostly to save money on the special effects budget?

I believe the tradition began in books and folktales well before film came along, so I don't think that's the only reason. Besides, it allows you to have the big dramatic reveal where the girl discovers that the evil werewolf that she just killed was actually her boyfriend/teacher/grandpa/mail man. Or, if the story wants to be even more shocking, the beast will turn out to be a woman. Oooooo...

It's a true literary tradition! To be honest I only realised the wings were gone after revisiting the page where he got shot. One other way is to update the page to show the wings disappearing / disintegrating in frame 7 of Spooky Powers (https://satanninja.com/comic/satan-ninja-198x/issue-1-video-dreamer/page-20)..
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: aett on January 28, 2015, 12:30:13 AM
Calling it now: this whole "magic ninja glove" thing goes nowhere. ;)

But seriously, I keep expecting a powerful revenge sequence not unlike in The Mask, even if that movie was a few years too late for this comic.

My Babe Alert isn't ringing. Is this the first page in months without sexy curves and bodacious bods?
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Michigander1911 on January 28, 2015, 03:38:58 PM
Other than Eddie tripping over the body this is pretty much how I predicted Eddie finding the glove from the beginning.  Walking home late after some kind defeat and stumbling on it.   
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Rijst on January 28, 2015, 03:54:01 PM
after some kind defeat

This part was pretty obvious at least. And why else would he be in the woods by himself..?
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Michigander1911 on January 28, 2015, 04:08:34 PM
after some kind defeat

This part was pretty obvious at least. And why else would he be in the woods by himself..?

Yeah Eddie walking home in defeat seems to be the theme music for this comic so it was kinda obvious I guess. 

Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Adam Dravian on January 29, 2015, 08:41:06 AM
I keep expecting a powerful revenge sequence not unlike in The Mask, even if that movie was a few years too late for this comic.

Funny you should mention The Mask. In my old movie script for Dark Relic (which served as the basic foundation for the Satan Ninja story), the main character (still named Eddie and he would have been played by a nineteen-year-old me) is a nerd who wants nothing more than to be really cool so he can get his dream girl. The party sequence happens similarly to how it played out in the comic, but then a wizard who witnessed everything gives Eddie a magical bone glove that, upon wearing it, turns him into the mega-cool greaser guy he always wished he could be. My idea being that the glove would channel a person's idealized version of them self or something like that.

Then one of my friends read the script and pointed out that my magic glove functioned way too similarly to The Mask. That hadn't been my intention at all, but he was right. In light of that, I decided I'd need to heavily re-work the story. So that's one of the reasons I never ended up filming Dark Relic, although another reason is that I was unable to secure the funding I thought I was going to get.

It's definitely for the best, though. I cringe when I re-read that old Dark Relic script, but I love that it evolved and mutated into the mega-radical Satan Ninja 198X.

My Babe Alert isn't ringing. Is this the first page in months without sexy curves and bodacious bods?

Holy shit, you're right. Jessica will be beaten severely for this glaring omission. Even if my script does not provide opportunity for T&A, she should force it. So Eddie's walking through the dark woods at night? Who says there can't be a nude centerfold tacked to a tree? Or a sexy wood nymph spying on him? Or the trees themselves could have tits.

Heh, eventually the comic will devolve into the Idiocracy version of itself, which will be nothing but pages of giant tits bathed in neon light with the pentastar icon in place of nipples.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Adam Dravian on January 29, 2015, 09:18:46 AM
Yeah Eddie walking home in defeat seems to be the theme music for this comic so it was kinda obvious I guess.

Yeah, gotta shit all over the hero before things can get better. Peter Parker lost his Uncle Ben, Eddie McCarthy lost his stuffed pig.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Adam Dravian on January 29, 2015, 09:22:13 AM
Given we're in the 198X universe, you'd have to parody the name Seven Doors of Death if this is in America - it didn't get a released as the Beyond in the US until the mid-90's.

Good catch. But I liked the name Hellgate Hotel. Wait, no, now it's making me think of Motel Hell, which isn't a very good movie. So, yeah. Seven Whores of Death it is.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Michigander1911 on January 29, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
Yeah Eddie walking home in defeat seems to be the theme music for this comic so it was kinda obvious I guess.

Yeah, gotta shit all over the hero before things can get better. Peter Parker lost his Uncle Ben, Eddie McCarthy lost his stuffed pig.

I think it's a prerequisite for being a good hero.  Of course loosing a stuffed pig and being rejected by the big tit blond is not exactly on the same level as Peter Parker or Bruce Wayne.
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Mumm-Rad on January 30, 2015, 04:43:24 PM
I think it's a prerequisite for being a good hero.  Of course loosing a stuffed pig and being rejected by the big tit blond is not exactly on the same level as Peter Parker or Bruce Wayne.

You are on spot with taking abuse being a prerequisite, but once the heavy guilt kicks in about the barbecued pig, every time he thinks about his grandma he could be more on the level of Bruce Banner/Hulk. Ninja Smash!!!!!! Poor, poor piggie  :'(
Title: Re: Issue 2 - Party Like It's 198X - Page 29 - Discovery in the Woods
Post by: Jessica Safron on February 05, 2015, 11:19:41 AM
I think it's a prerequisite for being a good hero.  Of course loosing a stuffed pig and being rejected by the big tit blond is not exactly on the same level as Peter Parker or Bruce Wayne.

You are on spot with taking abuse being a prerequisite, but once the heavy guilt kicks in about the barbecued pig, every time he thinks about his grandma he could be more on the level of Bruce Banner/Hulk. Ninja Smash!!!!!! Poor, poor piggie  :'(

Finally, someone mourns the stuffed pig! I thought it was heart-wrenching.