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You can thank Jessica for suggesting that I give Jennifer some terribly awkward dirty talk.

Viper's name is another thing that got a last minute change. For years, we had referred to the character as "Blake" which was a holdover name from my unfilmed Dark Relic script that the comic is partially based on. Both of us still refer to him as Blake all the damn time.

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Discuss Comic Pages / Issue 1 - Video Dreamer - Page 14 - Satan Ninjas
« on: April 05, 2014, 06:59:58 PM »


In my original script for this issue, back when the comic was still called Shinobi Fist - Legend of the Badass Ninja, I had a trio of ski-mask wearing, gun-toting, normal ol' burglars doing the break-in. Jessica convinced me to change them into ninjas so that the comic wouldn't take so long to get to ninja action. At the time, I envisioned our main character to be the only ninja in the comic, so I was hesitant to make the change. But I became sold once we decided on making the robbers not just ninjas, but Satan worshiping ninjas. In fact, the idea of a "Satan Ninja" amused us so much that we decided to turn our main character into one (of sorts), which resulted in the comic getting a name change.

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Discuss Comic Pages / Issue 1 - Video Dreamer - Page 13 - Night Walk
« on: March 29, 2014, 08:36:59 PM »


I believe this was the first page in which Jessica experimented with applying a gradient to the panel frames, in this case shifting from pink to blue as you go down the page. She liked the effect and ended up using it throughout the comic.

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Discuss Blog Entries / Movie Review - The Octagon (1980)
« on: March 24, 2014, 09:17:43 PM »
As part of our “research” for our comic, we’ve been watching a whole fuck-ton of 80s movies, both to refresh ourselves on the classics and to hopefully uncover some more forgotten gems, like the 1986 horror film Trick or Treat. Since we’re watching these movies, I figured I might as well review some of them.

It felt appropriate to kick off our movie reviews with the film that, as far my Internet sleuthing can uncover, is the first American-made 80s movie about ninjas. It also has Chuck Norris. And, best of all, the thoughts of Chuck Norris.

I’m speaking of the 1980 action film, The Octagon.



Not only does The Octagon seem to be the first western-made 80s movie about ninjas, it’s also one of the first western-made movies to prominently feature ninjas, ever. It seems to only be preceded by the 1967 Bond film You Only Live Twice, which features a squad of Japanese gun-toting commandos that dress similarly to ninjas, but I don’t think they’re ever referred to as such in the movie (it also features Sean Connery’s Bond being turned into a super unconvincing Japanese man through the use of makeup and fake eyebrows).

The Octagon was the third starring role for Chuck Norris, preceded by the stupidly named Breaker! Breaker! (1977) and the more awesomely named Good Guys Wear Black (1978). I’m not gonna go into detail about the plot (you can read the Wikipedia article for that) but basically, there’s a secret camp in a Central American desert where an Asian bad guy is training mercenaries to become ninja terrorists. Turns out this Asian bad guy is Chuck Norris’ half-brother and sworn enemy for life. Why? Because when they were younger, Chuck beat him in an obstacle course race. Asian bro acted like a dick about it, so their dad cast him out of the family. So now we’ve got ninja terrorists and it’s up to Chuck to stop them.

Most of the movie involves Chuck getting involved with a revolving door of damsels that serve to draw him into the plot (seriously, this movie switches up who the apparent female lead is three times). Once in a while he meets up with Lee Van Cleef for some exposition. Occasionally he fights some ninjas. But the real star feature of the movie is Chuck’s creepy whispery thoughts, which are projected to the viewer via voice-over. It’s awesome. Check out this compilation video I put together featuring all these incredible voice-over parts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5lOk2JHI8&feature=youtu.be

The movie doesn’t really kick in until the final act, when Chuck decides to infiltrate the secret desert training ground after the ninjas capture his best friend (played by Art Hindle, who starred in The Brood and looks a lot to me like Peter Dinklage post-super mushroom consumption). Here, we get to see Chuck karate a shitload of ninjas, and even take on the ninja boss character, Kyo, in the titular “octagon.” I was a little surprised that despite naming the movie after it, no deal is ever made about this octagon. No one ever references it, and it just serves as the set piece for part of the climax. I really expected it to get name dropped at some point, like the Asian Bad Guy could say something stupid like, “Welcome to your death, Chuck Norris… in the OCTAGON!” Plus, the theatrical release poster (pictured above) makes it seem like "The Octagon" is the title of the "one man" who can stop the ninja—the "unholy masters of terror."

Ninja Factor: It introduced the 80s to ninjas, so of course it ranks high on the ninja factor (although the 1981 film, Enter the Ninja, usually gets the credit for truly kick-starting the 80s ninja craze). There's ninja action sprinkled throughout most of the movie, and then a full-on ninja extravaganza at the end. It also features the bad-ass mute ninja enforcer, Kyo, who gets a special ninja outfit and hisses like a snake during combat. But if you watch this hoping to see Chuck as a ninja, you’re going to be disappointed. Although he does wear all black in the final act, he never dons any sort of ninja mask.

Boob Factor: The third female lead briefly shows some pretty nice side-boob. There’s also a scene of a shirtless, sweaty, and hairy Chuck Norris practicing, if you’re into that.

80s Factor: As far as the 80s factor goes, this ranks pretty low. Like most movies released in 1980, The Octagon was likely filmed in '79, and thus feels more like a 70s movie.

Voice-Over Factor: This movie goes above and beyond in this regard. All your voice-over needs will be met, and then some.

Overall Rating: We give it two-and-a-half pentastars out of five.

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Discuss Comic Pages / Issue 1 - Video Dreamer - Page 12 - Dean & Trish
« on: March 22, 2014, 02:30:26 AM »


Oh man, we love this page. I think it serves as a perfect introduction to Dean, who's obviously our take on the blond 80s jock bully. He's definitely one of our favorite characters.

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Discuss Comic Pages / Issue 1 - Video Dreamer - Page 11 - Joe & Trance
« on: March 15, 2014, 05:58:23 PM »


We decided early on that although we knew our comic would have constant references to various '80s media, we didn't want the references themselves to be the source of our comic's humor. Instead, the references are treated more like bonus Easter eggs. They're not essential, but they're there for those who enjoy that sort of thing (like us).

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Discuss Blog Entries / Re: Music Video - "Der Kommissar" by Falco
« on: March 11, 2014, 07:52:00 PM »
Damn, that video was so great my laptop crashed. True story.

I'm pretty sure it's his dance that caused it.

Also, welcome to the forum. You deserve some kind of badge of radness for being the first to post here.

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Discuss Blog Entries / Music Video - "Der Kommissar" by Falco
« on: March 11, 2014, 07:25:39 AM »
I doubt any of you would be surprised to learn that Jessica and I dig a lot of 80s music, from mainstream pop to underground metal. One of the many sources of inspiration for our comic comes from 80s music videos. So I thought I'd occasionally use this blog to highlight some of the more interesting videos we've come across.

Obviously, Austria's greatest export during the 80s was Arnold Schwarzenegger. But as far as musical exports, they gave us Falco.

In the US, Falco's known as a one-hit wonder for his song "Rock Me Amadues" (used to great effect in the retro-80s film, Adventureland). But he actually had another hit song here in the 80s... kind of. The song I'm talking about is "Der Kommissar," and although it was originally by Falco, the version that made it big here in the states is a cover of his song by the British band, After the Fire. Falco's version was released in '81, while After the Fire released their English-language cover of the song a year later.

You might think you've never heard of "Der Kommissar," but I'm sure most of you would recognize it once you heard the chorus, if you're familiar with 80s pop music.

So to give Falco his due, here's an awesomely stupid music video he made for the original version of the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4Xulsjo5I

The quality of this YouTube video sucks, but it's the best I could find. If anyone knows of a better quality version, let me know. I'm aware that there's an alternate video for this song on YouTube that's higher quality, but that alternate video isn't nearly as good.

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So many references squeezed into these two panels...

The "Narrator Dude" won't be nearly this chatty throughout the rest of the comic, but in the first issue he serves as a convenient segue to all the various characters we wanted show glimpses of. I actually had a bit of trouble writing the "80s party dude" dialogue of the Narrator Dude. I liked the 80s flavor it added and how it kept the narration from sounding too dry, but it was damn hard not to cross the line into having him sound totally obnoxious.

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Discuss Blog Entries / Initium
« on: March 01, 2014, 10:21:49 PM »
Holy shit. At long last, Satan Ninja 198X has roundhoused its way onto the web (big thanks to our Web Dude, Ghoul!).

This is a project Jessica and I have been talking about for a long time, and we’re pumped to finally unleash it.

The first 10 pages of our comic have been posted here, and we’ll be posting an additional page every Saturday (Satanday? Hell yeah). The whole first issue is done, but if we post the whole thing at once, that won’t give Jessica much of a buffer. However, those of you who’d rather not wait for us to post the entirety of the first issue can download it right now from our store.

So give our comic a read, poke around the website, and let us know what you think over at the forums. Since this website is freshly spawned from the depths of Neon Hell, there might be some growing pains. If you have any issues with the website, pester our Web Dude, Ghoul, about it (ghoul@satanninja.com).

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Discuss Anything / Forum Rules & Stuff
« on: March 01, 2014, 05:48:36 PM »
Don't be a dick and don't be a spambot.

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Discuss Comic Pages / Issue 1 - Video Dreamer - Page 9 - Dream Ninjas
« on: March 01, 2014, 05:28:10 AM »


This page rules.

Dude Shinobi was originally named Duke Shinobi and he had blond hair. But then a couple people we showed the comic to mistook him for a Duke Nukem parody, which wasn't our intent (after all, Duke Nukem is extremely 90s—not 80s), so we altered him.

Speaking of name-changes, for the first several years that we talked about doing this project, it was called Shinobi Fist: Legend of the Badass Ninja. It wasn't until relatively recently that we decided to take it in a more satanic direction and renamed it Satan Ninja 198X. We still catch ourselves starting to refer to it as Shinobi Fist. So now I frequently end up referring to the comic as "Shino—fuck—Satan Ninja."

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Discuss Comic Pages / Issue 1 - Video Dreamer - Page 8 - River City
« on: March 01, 2014, 05:15:53 AM »


This was the very first page that Jessica drew and was going to be the opening of the comic. You see, we were originally going to start with a mini-comic prologue of about a dozen pages. But after Jessica finished sketching it out, we decided we wanted a better introduction to Eddie and his friends and to give the comic an even stronger 80s feel. So we added the arcade scene and the upcoming dream scene and it evolved into a full issue.

By the way, the "Narrator Dude" captions should be read in a voice like Corey Feldman's.

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Discuss Comic Pages / Issue 1 - Video Dreamer - Page 7 - Pizza Wizard
« on: March 01, 2014, 04:53:35 AM »


The Pizza Wizard mascot is one of my favorite characters. Such horror in those dead olive eyes.

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And now we get to meet some of Eddie's other friends. Like Corey. It seems like whenever he's around, the dude ends up taking over the scene because he never shuts his fucking mouth. I can't help it—he's just too easy to write.

I ended up having to pare down a lot of dialogue in this page (and it's still dialogue heavy). Having written a novel and a bunch of short stories, I wasn't used to the extremely limited space you have with comic panels. But I think learning to write for a comic has taught me lessons that should hopefully carry over into my non-comic writing.

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